Posted: June 23, 2012 at 11:13 pm
Welcome to our new support forums. You’ll no doubt notice some changes around here. Topics can now be assigned to specific support staff or marked as resolved, so the Event Espresso team and our customers can stay up-to-date on issues and make sure nothing falls through the cracks. You can also follow and bookmark topics without having to post a reply and subscribe. Using tags will help staff and other users find and track the issues you have. Categories are used for each area of the Event Espresso plugin. Let us know if you have any questions about the new forums. |
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Not just about the New Forum, but also the new licensing system. |
There was an issue where the replies were being hidden, but I just fixed that, so you should be able to go to any of the posts over there that you need to access.
The changelog is here: https://eventespresso.com/wiki/change-log/
This is because of the new plugin update engine. Event Espresso will upgrade like any other plugin now. If you’re concerned about backwards-compatibility, you can create a copy of the event espresso plugin with a different directory name before doing the update. If something goes wrong you can just delete the updated version and restore the backup. The templates won’t be affected since those exist in
Then you won’t get update notifications or automatic updates.
Fill out the form here: Some of the account information may not have carried over correctly. This should only be a one-time update — once your account is fixed, there shouldn’t be any issues in the future.
Due to the rising costs of providing ongoing support and maintaining the Event Espresso codebase. We have decided to move to a subscription based model for support. Renewals are significantly discounted which will make it very affordable. More importantly, we will be able to reinvest into Event Espresso which has the potential to make you and your events more successful. We hope you see this as a positive thing.
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Thank Chris for the rapid feedback, just some clarification: FYI you need to change your send email info, it says from “WordPress”. |
Well, obviously you have forum access now. I’m assuming what you are actually referring to is access to content that relates to specific add-ons. For that, see my response to 5) above.
Sorry. New site, new system. We had to create a custom user import script to move all the users from the old forums over to the new site. This came from a hand-generated csv based on e-junkie purchase records. In some cases (I think particularly in cases where someone purchased a basic license and some a la carte addons, but there may be other cases as well) the add-ons didn’t get imported correctly which is the reason for the form now. We’ve been fielding a lot of these issues and I hope that you can bear with us during this transition.
That’s understandable. You can choose to not renew your license, of course, at which point you will still be able to use the plugin, you just won’t receive updates or have access to support or documentation.
That’s really a case-by-case issue. Most people who are using their standard business plan do not have the issues that you have reported in the past. Your particular case is more of a super user scenario — most people are just hosting maybe a handful of events monthly at the most and have not reported the server-related issues that you have. I have done a bit of work expanding the requirements check plugin to check for different potential problems and identify potential hosting insufficiencies.
No, that’s included in the support license for the core plugin.
Thanks, I’ll take care of it. |
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Also not overly impressed with the sudden move to yearly costs… the main reason for purchasing the plugin was the onetime cost… |
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Chris yes it is for the add-ons so re-registering will probably solve that, though I thought it was for more as the message said I needed the add-on “or personal license”. |
It’s a general message that appears in a lot of places, but we may need to update the conditionals. You’re logged in and have a personal license so it shouldn’t be telling you that you need a personal license. |
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From free to frustrating – really guys “Support staff content cannot be viewed without the necessary product purchases” talk about a one sided discussion. OK don’t let us ask question or post comments if we have not purchased the add- on, but block support’s answers! I evaluated all the add-on I purchased by searching the forum to determin if they would meet my needs, I even was so brazen as to ask questions about the add-ons function as part of my purchase decision. |
It isn’t a one-sided discussion for those who have purchased support for a specific add-on. |
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@Josh, I understand the need for you to be profitable, I want you to be around for a while too, but take a look at why you are doing well and don’t inhibit that. Yes I can go to the pre-sales forum, and it will take you and me a lot more time to ask and answer questions than letting me browse the forum. I also feel much more comfortable with the answers when I am not communicating with a “sales guy” (implied by being in a pre-sales forum.)I bought the ticketing add-on after much consideration of the comments on the forum and some of the wonderful discussion over issues and how they were resolved.
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@Peter Thanks for your feedback. I understand that you make purchase decisions based on user feedback. I am the same way. It was a very hard decision, but we decided to close some of these premium support discussions, because of piracy issues and the fact that some people were basically getting free support without purchasing a support license. The overhead on the free support was killing us. And if we want to continue developing and supporting our products, we had to make it harder for people to access information without the proper support licenses. I like the idea of a poll system. I will see if we can add something like that. |
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@Seth, I hope it pans out for you. |
@Peter Thanks! We will try this approach for now and see how it works out. We want to make sure we can continue to keep the plugin afloat and try keep our users happy. If anyone really wants to see what people are saying about one of our products, we are more than happy to give them access. All they have to do is ask. |
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Positive feedback is always rare, so I just wanted to let you know – while I can understand some users’ frustration with the changes – I totally support your decision re: paid support. It is critical that you generate enough revenue to cover expenses and make a reasonable profit so you can stay afloat with enough help that no one burns out. Personally, I’ve invested a lot of time into learning Event Espresso and can see how you are trying to cover as many use cases as possible. Keep up the great work & thanks for all the effort that goes into support!
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@Seth, I appreciate you and your teams hard work and as I have said I hope you are profitable and continue to develop this great product. I will not drag on the debate, as you have obviously made your decision, but I hope you do not lose sight of what drew many of us to the product in the first place and your pre-release testing and release documentation improves so that you can keep down your future support costs.
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Thanks for the feedback. We’re continually working on improving the testing and documentation. It’s been significantly improved since one year ago, but we still have a ways to go. We should have more resources to put into pre-release testing and documentation now that we are only supporting those who have purchased support licenses. |
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Was it something I posted, but why can I no longer access the ticketing add-on section? I was able to post and read support’s answers there yesterday. |
I recommend anyone missing add-ons to fill out an update request form: https://eventespresso.com/contact/update-request/ |
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@Josh, I already have done that and “Ticketing” shows up in my account plug-ins, that is how I was able to ask question yesterday in the ticketing section (see thread https://eventespresso.com/topic/ticketing-version-2/). Now today I cannot access it, but my other plug-ins look active. |
I see. I’ll have to check into this. |
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@Josh, I now have access again – thanks |
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