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Improving the mobile app check in speed and email issue

Posted: March 9, 2014 at 12:21 pm


Peter Stoianov

March 9, 2014 at 12:21 pm

Hi Guy,

Using latest wordpress and latest ee 3 version on http://www.bglive.co.uk

Is there any chance to improve the check in speed of the android app? We had to check in 400 people in an hour last Friday,using 3 phones, and it is not very fast. Today we tested Eventbrite’s app by creating free tickets and it was flying. It seems their qr codes are simpler then the EE ones? Could anything be done to improve the speed?
Also many customers complained that they never received their tickets and brought only the paypal emails. We asked them to look into the spam or other folders but many claimed they could not find anything. We are using a gmail as our main email. Is that an issue? Do we need to create an email from our host?

Kins Regards
Peter


Tony

  • Support Staff

March 10, 2014 at 5:18 am

Hi Peter,

Which version of the Event Espresso App are you using? Latest version is Event Espresso HD v2.0

When you say it’s not very fast, which part?
Scanning the tickets?
Retrieving the information?
The steps involved?

I will pass on any feedback you can provide to our android developer.

Regarding the emails.

There are so many steps that Event Espresso does not have control over in regards to emails that it is impossible for us to tell. Usually its down to an issue with the server (Event Espresso issues an email command and passes the content to WordPress, which then passes it only your server, which could do any number of steps)

We recommend using a service such as Mandrill or Postmark to send transactional emails.

Personally I use Mandrill as it offers up to 12,000 emails per month for free and removes much of the uncertainty of the emails (you can view in-depth reports of the emails sent) and use wpMandrill to connect to the service.


Peter Stoianov

March 11, 2014 at 10:57 am

Thank you for your reply Tony,

These are answers below:

Which version of the Event Espresso App are you using? Latest version is Event Espresso HD v2.0

Latest versions versions of EE3, ticketing app, api addon.

When you say it’s not very fast, which part?

Scanning the tickets?
Takes time to scan 4 to 6 seconds using Galaxy S4 and S4 mini.
Retrieving the information?
take up to 3-4 seconds and then if there are more than 1 tickets to check in you need to do it manually and it takes another 2-3 secs.
The steps involved?

I will pass on any feedback you can provide to our android developer.

Regarding the emails.
There are so many steps that Event Espresso does not have control over in regards to emails that it is impossible for us to tell. Usually its down to an issue with the server (Event Espresso issues an email command and passes the content to WordPress, which then passes it only your server, which could do any number of steps)
We recommend using a service such as Mandrill or Postmark to send transactional emails.
Personally I use Mandrill as it offers up to 12,000 emails per month for free and removes much of the uncertainty of the emails (you can view in-depth reports of the emails sent) and use wpMandrill to connect to the service.

Is wpMandrill to embed into EE or WordPress? We use Mailchipm for email marketing but it is separate from World press.

Thank you


Josh

  • Support Staff

March 12, 2014 at 8:50 am

Hi Peter,

One difference between scanning on EventBrite’s app and our app is you are hosting our software on your server. EventBrite is hosting their software on their server. If your site is hosted on a overloaded shared server it will be a lot slower. Have you considered contacting your host about upgrading to something like a managed VPS server?

WPmandrill is a WordPress plugin that will route sending emails sent by WordPress (which includes Event Espresso’s email notifications, they all get sent through WordPress). Mandrill is a transactional email service that is separate from MailChimp’s newsletter service.


Peter Stoianov

March 12, 2014 at 9:05 am

Thank you Josh,
It is not only about retrieving the info from the server but actually the scanning of the qr code is not very fast as well. Eventbrite have simpler qr codes and it seems it is very fast in scanning them.
What about ticketing on EE4? Is it coming soon and is it going to be different from EE3, in terms of scanning speed and architecture?
Mst commercial ticketing systems offer viral addons,i.e when people buy a ticket they it is shared on their wall. Are there some plans for that?
Finally are there any plans for enabling resellers like brownpaper tickets does? Thank you again


Peter Stoianov

March 12, 2014 at 9:17 am

Hi again Josh.
Is there any way to improve the speed of retrieving by changing the settings of the API? For instance by allowing public api access and returning a smaller number of less event and attendees and registrations. We have one event a month. What is the difference between attendees and registrations? Thank you


Peter Stoianov

March 12, 2014 at 9:44 am

I spoke to our web host and they recommended using wp super cache to improve the speed of the database and therefore the scanning/ retrieving info. Is this advisable? Thank you


Josh

  • Support Staff

March 12, 2014 at 10:42 am

Hi Peter,

I think using WP super cache wouldn’t help in this case because when you use the ticketing add-on you’re actually reading and writing info to the database when you scan a ticket. Where WP super cache is useful is when you want to speed up the loading of a static website page or post that doesn’t need to be dynamic (ie read-only). Instead of serving the page dynamically, where WP normally runs PHP and accesses the database each time a page is loaded, it builds a “cached” copy of page that’s all html and serves it instead. The database speed is not affected, it’s not even relevant when it’s serving static files.

If you’d like to learn more about how WP super cache works, I recommend checking out this overview:

http://ocaoimh.ie/wp-super-cache/


Peter Stoianov

March 12, 2014 at 11:45 am

Thank you Josh,
Could you see/answer my two previous posts please.
Thanks again


Josh

  • Support Staff

March 12, 2014 at 12:39 pm

Hi Peter,

I don’t think changing the API to allow public access will help speed things up, but changing the defaults might help a little bit. An attendee can be part of a group registration, so for example two attendees could be part of the same registration.


Peter Stoianov

March 12, 2014 at 4:28 pm

Thanks Josh,
Any indications on these issues:
What about ticketing on EE4? Is it coming soon and is it going to be different from EE3, in terms of scanning speed and architecture?
Most commercial ticketing systems offer viral addons, i.e when people buy a ticket it is shared on their facebook wall or something similar.
Are there some plans for that?
Finally are there any plans for enabling resellers like brownpaper tickets does? Thank you again


Josh

  • Support Staff

March 12, 2014 at 4:58 pm

Hi Peter,

Our policy, like that of many companies, is not to comment on future plans or work in progress. I can tell you though that the API for EE4 that will be used by the ticket scanning app to interface with the WordPress database is very similar to the one that was built for EE3. Please note that it is not normal for ticket scans to take longer than less than one second. When you see a 4-6 second delay after scanning a ticket, that’s likely a network traffic or server issue.


Peter Stoianov

March 12, 2014 at 5:06 pm

Thank you Josh,

It is more like from 3-4 to 5-6 sec altogether to scan and retrieve.
What about the other issues, viral and resellers?
Thanks


Josh

  • Support Staff

March 12, 2014 at 5:18 pm

I can’t comment on future plans about viral add-ons or resellers because our policy, like that of many companies, is not to comment on future plans or work in progress.

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