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evansmagic
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April 3, 2023 at 7:14 am
We have EE 5.0.2.p installed. It’s font styles are being applied to many pages in the WordPress admin, not just EE pages. It is making some admin pages nearly unusable. I’ve looked at various admin pages, and the problem seems to affect only admin pages for third party plugins. E.g. MemberPress, One User Avatar, and WP Full Text Search.
EE 5 is definitely the cause. Disabling EE fixes the other pages in the admin. The CSS selectors involved start with .espresso-admin, and that class seems to be added to the body of all WP admin pages, though the native WP admin pages I spot checked seem OK visually.
A non dismissible warning banner about converting to PayPal Commerce is being displayed sitewide in the admin. I don’t know whether that’s intended to appear everywhere or just on your pages. I’m mentioning it in case it is related to the styling bug. (It is annoying, so if displaying it sitewide is intentional, maybe consider changing that behavior.)
FWIW, my users also hate the new font styling on the EE pages. Obviously, you can choose style your own pages however you wish, no matter what my users think. However, you can’t mess with other pages in our admin. We need to get a fix or workaround for this bug quickly, as some pages are extremely difficult to use with the styling issues.
Thanks
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Tony
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April 3, 2023 at 9:11 am
Hi there,
Thank you for reporting this.
We have identified the issue with the styles and will have this fixed in the next update.
A non dismissible warning banner about converting to PayPal Commerce is being displayed sitewide in the admin. I don’t know whether that’s intended to appear everywhere or just on your pages. I’m mentioning it in case it is related to the styling bug. (It is annoying, so if displaying it sitewide is intentional, maybe consider changing that behavior.)
I have created a ticket to discuss this further.
The notice will show if you are using one of the ‘deprecated’ PayPal payment methods PayPal Standard, PayPal Express, PayPal Pro and AIM. Those have been deprecated because the integration method used has now been deprecated and the latest (PayPal Commerce) is the recommend method to use.
However, I agree that the notice should not be displayed site-wide, but if it must it should at least be dismissable so we will discuss this further internally.
FWIW, my users also hate the new font styling on the EE pages. Obviously, you can choose style your own pages however you wish, no matter what my users think. However, you can’t mess with other pages in our admin. We need to get a fix or workaround for this bug quickly, as some pages are extremely difficult to use with the styling issues.
Fully agree in regards to styling other pages.
With regards to the new styles within EE5, can you add some additional info on what it is the users don’t like? We’ve followed the latest WP Core changes with regard to font sizes and accessibility but I can pass on any additional feedback to the team to discuss further.
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evansmagic
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April 3, 2023 at 9:31 am
I appreciate the quick response to the formatting issue.
FYI, My role in the organization is “web guy,” so I don’t work directly with EE much, beyond helping when the users are having an issue or can’t figure out how to do something. Here’s the complaint I received from user who is acting as registrar and managing our upcoming event:
Where the Font settings or screen settings changed in parts of WordPress?
I noticed that today as I was updating a member, the font is ‘oversized’ making everything somewhat ‘cramped’. The same is true in Event Expresso. The large font and buttons makes everything difficult to read.
Let me know if there’s anything I can do to return these screens to their original format.
IMHO, having font on the EE admin pages that are different from the rest of the admin is bad UX. I realize users tend to reflexively have a negative response to changes, but I do think the inconsistency with the normal admin pages is a valid point.
On the PayPal change, is there documentation about the impacts of switching? I couldn’t find any. Absent a compelling reason otherwise, I’m inclined to postpone changing the payment settings until after our upcoming event.
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Tony
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April 4, 2023 at 12:37 pm
5.0.3 has now been released, that version addressed the issue with the styling and sets the EE notice about PayPal Commerce to only show on EE admin pages (amongst other fixes).
Side note – we identified an issue with 5.0.2 which prevented some sites from updating through the one-click updates (the update shows you already have the latest version when you try to update). If that happens on your site you just need to update Event Espresso manually, download the .zip from your account page and upload it through Dashboard -> Plugins -> Add New -> Upload plugin. WordPress will tell you the plugin already exists and ask if you want to replace it with the version you just downloaded, just check it’s the correct plugin and accept.
The above update issue should not happen from 5.0.3.p+
On the PayPal change, is there documentation about the impacts of switching? I couldn’t find any. Absent a compelling reason otherwise, I’m inclined to postpone changing the payment settings until after our upcoming event.
Currently, we don’t have any. The difference is the integration method used and the features offered by PayPal through it. For example, PayPal Commerce supports the PayPal Paylater options, PayPal Express does not.
You can have multiple payment methods enable within EE so you could enable PayPal Commerce and still leave whichever one you have enabled now (I assume PayPal Express?) to see the difference.
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