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December 12, 2023 at 4:51 am

Hi Mark,

I would like to start migrating from EE3 to either EE4 or EE5. (I don’t know which yet.)

Just to clarify, EE5 basically IS EE4 but with the new Advanced editor.

I’d recommend using the latest version, which is currently v5.0.XX because that’s where all our development time now goes, but also because of this….

I need to incorporate the recurring events manager and the events calendar.

The recurring events manager requires version 5+

I need the ability to add multiple recurring events manually, not automatically. Is that possible?

Manually recurring events? So you just want to manually add additional datetimes and tickets? (In which case you may need the recurring events manager, but I still recommended EE5)

I am currently using EE3 with a personal license and need to be pointed in the right direction to upgrade. Which version of EE do I need to buy for 1 site only?

The short answer is it depends on which add-on you need. All licenses apart from the developer license give you access to 1 site but it just depends on how many of the add-ons you need if its better for you to purchase the personal license + add-ons or the everything license.

EE3 licenses include access to EE4 as we want everyone to be able to transition over to EE4+ so you currently already have access to EE5 and the calendar add-on for it with your current license.

I would also like to set up EE on my staging site first. Is that possible too?

Sure is and we recommend doing exactly that.

The license key is used for support and one-click updates, so on your staging site you can manually install EE5 and work on it there, just leave the license key field blank for now and EE will function as normal.

I have posted in this forum before and have greatly appreciated the help and advice given me. Thank you in advance as I’m sure I will have more questions. Ideally I am looking for a step by step guide to upgrading.

The migration from EE3 -> EE4 is pretty self explanatory, once you install EE4 it will detect that you have EE3 data in the database and offer to migrate that data over for you (that only happens on initial activation). You follow the on screen instructions to migrate, complete each migration step and your done in terms of EE migration.

So…

1. I assume you are cloning the live site to staging?
2. Deactivate EE3 and its add-ons.
3. Install EE4 and activate.
4. Run through the migrations until complete.

EE4 relies more on your theme than EE3 does so after the above you test a registration and see how the steps all look/work. Generally they work fine, sometimes you need to make changes to the theme, but you wont know until you migrate over (it depends on how your theme has been coded, again generally most ‘just work’).

December 12, 2023 at 5:45 am

It’s an add-on, product page:
https://eventespresso.com/product/eea-recurring-events-manager/

Docs:
https://eventespresso.com/wiki/eea-recurring-events-manager/

I do want to use the REM to be able to just add additional datetimes.

EE4+ works very differently from EE3 and I suspect you are thinking about it in the way that EE3 REM worked.

You can manually add datetimes into an event within EE4 without using REM, the add-on makes creating a recurring series within EE4 manageable, but you don’t ‘need’ it if adding dates manually.

December 12, 2023 at 5:14 pm

You’re most welcome and please do let me know if you run into any issues or have any questions, I’ll answer as best I can.

December 13, 2023 at 6:19 am

Yep, that’s the one.

That will replace v4.10.46 with the version you just uploaded.

December 13, 2023 at 7:23 am

No, we don’t currently have a similar output for EE4.

EE4 uses your sites theme much more than EE3 did, so your events should currently be displaying in the same way normal ‘posts’ would within your site.

Is that part working?

December 13, 2023 at 8:17 am

Can you link me to the page?

December 13, 2023 at 5:21 pm

Hmm, so we don’t currently have any output similar to that for EE4.

The accordion is from XTheme, but the Calendar Table is one of EE3’s custom tables that we don’t have for EE4. You would need a custom template created for EE4 to output your events in that way.

How does the staging site output them currently?

December 14, 2023 at 1:17 am

EVENT_CUSTOM_VIEW shortcode is an EE3 shortcode.

We don’t have an EE4 equivalent for that output.

You’re going to need custom development to output the events in the same way as that did if that’s what you want.

thanks

December 15, 2023 at 4:48 am

Hi Mark,

Recurring events within EE4 are different to EE3, it doesn’t create a separate event object.

We consider a recurring event to be essentially another ‘instance’ of the same event. For example, if you have a class running once a week, let’s say its the ‘Monday Madness’ event, it’s the same event just run on separate dates, correct?

Meaning it’s just one event in Event Espresso with separate datetimes for each instance. You don’t need separate ‘events’, just separate datetimes, once for each of those instances and then a ticket assigned jus that specific instance to purchase.

REM basically adds a section to automatically generate datetimes/tickets based on patterns, you mentioned you want manual dates so as it stands you don’t need REM.

What type of setup are you looking for?